PAMI TC Meeting Centre de Congres Acropolis, Nice, France, 14 October 2003 (At ICCV 2003) Minutes recorded by Daniela Hall, edited by James L. Crowley Agenda 1. The PAMI TC 2. Minutes from PAMI TC meeting at CVPR 2003 3. Report on ICCV 2003 (B. Triggs) 4. Plans for ICCV 2005 (H. Shum) 5. Proposals for ICCV 2007 6. Other upcoming Conferences 7. Any other business Participants: The meeting was attended by about 100 ICCV participants. 1. The PAMI TC As the meeting came to order, James Crowley presented a brief review of the structure and role of the PAMI TC. 2. Minutes from PAMI TC meeting at CVPR 2003 The highlights of the minutes from the previous meeting at CVPR 2003 were presented. Special mention was given of the election of Kim Boyer as future PAMI TC Chair, replacing Chuck Dyer in January 2004. 3. Report on ICCV 2003 (B. Triggs): Bill Triggs reported that the conference received about 1100 abstracts resulting in 960 paper submissions. From these 43 oral presentations and 156 posters were selected for the conference. This gives an acceptance rate of about 20.7%. The conference has recorded 690 paid registrations as of the time of the meeting. In response to a question, Bill reported that the acceptance rate at ICCV has increased slightly at each conference. In response to a question on the budget, Bill reported that the recent exchange rate variations between the Euro and the Dollar will decrease the profit margin of the conference. To a further question, Bill explained that the IEEE charges 14% of the conference income for treatment of registrations and other services. After expenses for catering, and other costs, the profit is about 5% of the conference budget. This profit may be reduced by the recent drop in the value of the dollar because registration is paid in dollars while expenses for the conference are in Euros. Jatendra Malik commented that B. Triggs agreed on 24 hours notice to switch the venue to Nice, and asked for a round of applause. He also remarked that H. Shum deserves support for the next ICCV. 4. Plans for ICCV 2005 (H. Shum) Harry made a brief review of plans for ICCV 2005. ICCV 2005 will be in Beijing and may be held in May or October 2005. 5. Proposals for ICCV 2007 A proposal was made by Larry Davis for ICCV 07 to be held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil General Chairs: L. Davis, K. Ikeuchi, P. Bouthemy Local Chair: S. Goldenstein, L. Velho, D. Geiger Program Co-Chairs: Metaxas, Vemuri, Shashua, Shum Workshops Chair: T. Darrell Short Courses Chair: D. Samaras It was noted that ICCV has never been in South America. Brazil has active research community in Computer Vision and in Image Processing. There are several possible sites for the venue. A likely choice is the Hotel Gloria with 600 rooms and a meeting room that can seat 1000. A member of the audience asked if this will be enough seating? The risk is small that ICCV increases significantly in size. It was pointed out that the current meeting room seats 750 and that this was more than adequate for the conference this year. A discussion was held about the dates. The Conference could be held between late August and mid October. In response to a question, a discussion was held about dates. A show of hands was held, and roughly 75% of the audience indicated a preference for a preference for end of august or early September because of conflicts with the academic year in North America and Europe. It was remarked that a conference in october would allow better separation with CVPR. The issue is to be re-discussed at CVPR in Washington. A vote was held, and the TC unanimously accepted the proposal for ICCV 07 to be held in Rio de Janeiro. A discussion was then held on the review process. James Crowley observed that several innovations had been instituted this year at CVPR. In particular, authors receive a one-week period to comment and refute reviews. The program committee then has an opportunity to revise reviews. Several participants remarked that authors preferred this process. It was generally found to be much fairer. In particular, this procedure offers a solution to the perceived problem that the most innovative papers generally receive mixed reviews. With selection rates at around 20%, the result is that only work on established problems is would receive unanimous approval. Other members observed that this procedure increases the work load of reviewers and area chairs, both because they must devote extra time to the review process, and also that they must be more thorough in their reviews. Sample Comments: (B. Freeman): This variation of the review process may be useful but increases the work load. (R. Szeliski): Area chair needs to make sure that reviewers do their work. (H. Shum): Agrees with Szeliski. We must be careful about how many reliable reviews can be produced by the community (increasing number of conferences, increasing number of submissions). Considering the working time for reviews, the review process is expensive. B. Triggs made a novel proposal that authors be required to pay for submission. With such a process, a fund would be available to reward reviewers. Although a consensus seemed to emerge in favor of this new procedure, the TC decided not to make a formal motion on these issues. It is recommended that this issue be discussed at the PAMI-TC meeting. 6. Other upcoming Conferences Overview of upcoming conferences: CVPR04: Date: June 2004, Paper deadline: 19 November 2003 (Huang): This date has a conflict with ICME. (International Conference on Multi-Media and Expo). It was observed that , while ICME is an IEEE conference, it is not sponsored by PAMI and draws only a small number of PAMI members. It is difficult to avoid such overlaps. ECCV04: Date: May 2004, Venue: Prague, submissions closed, 9 associated workshops. ICVS05: Organized by R. Kjeldsen, date March/April 2005 in New York area. CVPR05: Date: Spring 2005 in San Diego. Paper deadline: November 2004. (Malik): states that for a good review process the program committee must be large. The meeting closed with no other issues.